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Old 09-05-2005, 04:46 AM
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Thanks m249a!
I know that in any business higher echelon don't communicate as well as they should.

When I read that...I couldn't believe my eyes.
You, Damian and myself have had quite a few discussions regarding


The Virtual Casino Group Scumbag Outfit

and I remember clearly the fact that OPU would never endorse

The Virtual Casino Scumbag Outfit.

I know such a contraversial topic as


The Virtual Casino Group Scumbag Outfit

brings tons of hits to the OPU.
So, I can appreciate the want for an interview with the NEW manager.


I will say this...
No matter WHO the manager may be
NOTHING
is or will ever change.

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Old 09-05-2005, 05:39 AM
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Of course it brings hits. And traffic, 2 things I enjoy very much. But more importantly, it gives the man some valauble insight into what PLAYERS outside of his group of players have to say.

You (lanidar) and I as well as most of the members here are all PLAYERS, and we all have something to say.

Speak you mind, as I know you will, but lets see if there is hope for a group that is NOT going out of business anytime soon.

If we as players express our opinions, and offer our suggestions to people like Vdanny, then we can at the BARE minimum say, we tried. We told you what was messed up, In our opinion, and what is keeping US from using your company to provide entertainment for us.

What he does with that information is soley up to him.
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Old 09-05-2005, 06:03 AM
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Of course it brings hits. And traffic, 2 things I enjoy very much. But more importantly, it gives the man some valauble insight into what PLAYERS outside of his group of players have to say.
Hits ARE great and I enjoy them also.
But, I KNOW the man already knows what players have to say about this group.


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You (lanidar) and I as well as most of the members here are all PLAYERS, and we all have something to say.

Speak you mind, as I know you will, but lets see if there is hope for a group that is NOT going out of business anytime soon.
I always have something to say about Virtual.
Never anything good... of course.
Not seeming to be rude, m249a, but why don't you set up a poll and ask the players if there is ANY hope for this outfit.
And, I do agree that they are NOT going to go out of business anytime soon at all!
That's because they keep stealing players money...period.


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If we as players express our opinions, and offer our suggestions to people like Vdanny, then we can at the BARE minimum say, we tried. We told you what was messed up, In our opinion, and what is keeping US from using your company to provide entertainment for us.

What he does with that information is soley up to him.
I'm sure Vdanny know of the opinions of the GREAT majority of the players.
You know what he's going to do with the opinions?
NOTHING...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!


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Old 09-05-2005, 06:05 AM
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As the interviewer and the poster, if have to take the heat for the omissions until Danny explains them explains them freshly to our members, and one more time to joeyl and casuso - I just can't repeat what he has told you before, btw I thought he was clear - I condider him as a friend, but I am can't act as a Virtual rep. The versions (clones or skins) question has not been answered in his own words - to me - so I have to leave it up to Danny

Thatchatch. Caruso is Caruso, he thinks you should have asked certain pertinent questions. I see you now actually asked those questions but surprise surprise, Danny dodged those questions with illness and poota problems. Of course he should answer in work time, this is work related.

Joeyl is Joeyl and thinks the upper eschelons of Virtual etc are rogue and no paid staff can change that fact, VDanny's hands are tied.

So now you know.
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Old 09-05-2005, 06:10 AM
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Of course it brings hits. And traffic, 2 things I enjoy very much. But more importantly, it gives the man some valauble insight into what PLAYERS outside of his group of players have to say.

You (lanidar) and I as well as most of the members here are all PLAYERS, and we all have something to say.

Speak you mind, as I know you will, but lets see if there is hope for a group that is NOT going out of business anytime soon.

If we as players express our opinions, and offer our suggestions to people like Vdanny, then we can at the BARE minimum say, we tried. We told you what was messed up, In our opinion, and what is keeping US from using your company to provide entertainment for us.

What he does with that information is soley up to him.




I myself thought the same thing, ok we are trying to give this a chance. So far I thought this to be open by VDanny. I must say that the clone or skins thing has me a bit confused, however I'm not a big online casino player. I'm mostly on the poker sites. But if there have been problems with this group in the past one must think...Is a new manager going to really change the casino owners tactics?
Just my thoughts.
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Old 09-05-2005, 06:21 AM
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I myself thought the same thing, ok we are trying to give this a chance. So far I thought this to be open by VDanny. I must say that the clone or skins thing has me a bit confused, however I'm not a big online casino player. I'm mostly on the poker sites. But if there have been problems with this group in the past one must think...Is a new manager going to really change the casino owners tactics?
Just my thoughts.

IF
there have been problems in the past?
I KNOW that we ALL know that there ARE problems from the past and there will continue to be problems in the future.
I think that answers the question regarding the NEW manager issue.
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Old 09-05-2005, 07:48 AM
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If the OPU wants to take on a casino, we will. We back what we put up.
When Ted was manager of Virtual I got paid,Didnt see no way out complaints. I don't see no complaints now. There has not been no crazy complaints for the pass 2 years.

Please ask Danny or any other person in the interview section in a calm manner questions.
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there have been problems in the past?
I KNOW that we ALL know that there ARE problems from the past and there will continue to be problems in the future.
I think that answers the question regarding the NEW manager issue.



uncle i dont agree to this statement, I recall sci fi, making mistakes and they have had a clean history for the pass 3 years. Intercasino mistakes, micro casinos problems. All business have problems.

The main problem with virtual casino in my eyes is them clones, he was talking to us, now he might want, cause of posting tone.

So i am going to ask, him can he helps us help him, make his casino a place where players will not have problems.

Virtual is not going no place, so why not work with them to help clean up there act. If there willing.

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Old 09-05-2005, 08:28 AM
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Yes damian, that is the commonly held view by Watchdogs and portal owners, players too.

Ie give them a chance to behave. If no chances are given to rogues and/or mistakes, the Watchdog has nothing to offer as a carrot to get a bad casino to turn good.

I do not hold with that view.

Virtual are Rogue. If VD does'nt like that tone, it would not be "tone" persay atall ~ it is the "content" of the post. My posts are plenty polite enough for all forums, just maybe not for rogue casinos.

Edit to add ~ Sci Fi = rogue.
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Old 09-05-2005, 08:36 AM
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