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Old 07-08-2005, 04:41 PM
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Exclamation CM proceeds to lose players' trust

Nope, it's not April fool's Day!

The end of Casinomeister's era of Integrity to the players signing up at a casino through his site? Perhaps, or is it worse, this being the tip of an iceberg unseen until now?

Casinomeister proceeds to endorse a rogue casino's license to steal!

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Grandbankscasino was on Casinomeister's list of rogues for dubious behaviour such as bans, delays of payments, etc... That was until they recently met in Montreal. After that meeting, Casinomeister went on to put the rogues on 'probation', in other words condoning their modus operendi, or for lack of a better definition, accepting their ways to treat and pay winning players.

A player, member of Casinomeister, almost immediately proceeded to make a deposit, met the casino's terms and requirements, had the 'audacity' to win, and got his winnings confiscated. Why? Because the casino says that any player exhibiting 'bonus abuser' behaviour can be denied his winning at the casino's discretion. That's refered to here, at the OPU, as a License to Steal!

The player won fairly, was denied his winnings and returned his deposit, but get this: Minus a $15 administration fee!

Every poster sided with player Iggy all the 'big names' out there, including Jetset, Brian Cullingworth of Infopowa, a longstanding ally of Bryan Bailey rightfully calling this, in so many different ways unfair, theft, unethical...

What was Casinomeister, Bryan Bailey's very first reaction? To advise player Iggy to contact via PM the casino manager, who is also a member of his forum. The player did this. The manager's response? Based on your recent activity at Grand Banks on June 28th, 2005, your account has been system flagged for apparent bonus abuse. As such, your play and bonus will be void and your initial deposit has been returned.

Further members and posters outrage was answered by Casinomeister by this:

When you sign up at a casino, you agree to accept their terms and conditions:

Players who endeavor only to meet minimum playthrough requirements of a given bonus, exhibiting 'bonus hunter' characteristics, will have their accounts automatically flagged and audited. Should the security department determine that a new player account was set-up solely to exploit this bonus, the player may forfeit their bonus money, any winnings gained under this promotion and their deposit returned minus a $15 administration fee.

You agreed to this - if you didn't like the wording of this, you should have gone elsewhere.
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What happened in that private meeting between casino management? Of course the exchange of beers... Now the question asked everywhere... we know that it can cost up to $20,000.00 USD for a media buy at Casinomeister... was there an exchange of five figured funds?

Is the 'caped cruisader' Casinomeister, once idolized throughout the world, shamelessly removing his goalie mask with one hand while holding his bass electric guitar with the other, in his attic, his walls having turned into glass?

Is this the end of an era where so many naive players are to face the Big Deception?

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...1&page=2&pp=10

Did he sell out his integrity, his Word, the one possession dearest to a man, next to his own conscience?
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Old 07-09-2005, 11:51 AM
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Thumbs down Ha Ha Ha

Ha Ha Ha!!! I knew that this will come out one day!
I had a talk with one fellow in msn, he turned to be the online casino representative.... representative of a not well known casino. We were chatting about gambling then... and he told... that in webmasters and gambling Page Ranking world it is common known that Bryan will push any casino if your first letter will start with words.... "How much? or What is the price?"... They say that the average price is somehow 20 000 to 50 000.... REGARDLESS to back of the casino. So... we gotta make rochester pay big telephone bills so they could not pay to casinomeister! Lmao!
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Old 07-10-2005, 09:28 AM
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Hi all,

No doubt, Niko and others, that the starting post is controversial to say the least. After all we are talking about what was an Icon in the casino world for so long, a player’s ally. It’s perhaps an unfortunate reality that everything comes to an end sooner or later. Is this the case now?

Everyone’s opinion, whatever it is, is appreciated.

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Old 07-11-2005, 01:54 AM
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Exclamation CM ... hmmm

My opinion is the following.
Bryan made superb work in the begining, no doubts. He was the pioneer in giving any guarantees to the players. He did great. I respect him much for that.
But then he wanted to eat and eat good. So he became a person who CAN ask for big money. He obtained profitable power and started to use that. Then time to time everithing changes and now the priority for him is money. EVERY webmaster who wanted to deal with Bryan knows that he will give GREAT start power for money. He WILL push any casino for money. Only then, if a casino screws up he will shout at it but he will not return money.
I used to have a site related to gambling...... I know how things are done. I witnessed MANY things on casinomeister and other forums. Due to said I am here and I will fight for the OPU. Here money do not solve everithing. This forum realy cares of its members. I belive that It will be proved many times in future. I can see the unite of players here. Every member will fight for other member here.
There... Bryan has taken the obligation to fight for players rights..... here players fight for their rights themselves with the help of Damian, Boss and mods. So togeather we shall find the way to have great influence on casinos!
The OPU will have the power much more then CM had. The idea is correct here.
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:11 AM
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Good summary

Hey Dj,

You summary of CM is pretty accurate and fair.

“here players fight for their rights themselves with the help of Damian, Boss and mods. So together we shall find the way to have great influence on casinos!”

The concept is unique, it combines the best of all possible ‘portals’ approaches..

The OPU will have the power much more then CM had.

There’ no doubt there. CM is old history. We are a one-stop shop! Topics-wise, he’s not even close…

The idea is correct here.

Yes, and we shall prevail.

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Old 07-14-2005, 01:46 PM
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Cool No talks, just actions.

Great, I am in!
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