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Old 10-28-2010, 12:30 PM
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Plentyjackpots is definately fraudulent. IMO all RTG-Casinos should be avoided

Hi there,

In Jan 2009 I wanted to withdraw my winnings and I'm still waiting for my money!

Here is the complete story about my "business relation" with PlentyJackpots and RTG/CDS:

12 Jan 2009: I depositted USD 100 and received an USD 500 bonus from them. At this time the playthru-requirement was 15x (deposit+bonus) which is USD 9,000.
I played some time and after making a playthrough of USD 10,600 I requested a payout of USD 5,000.
14 Feb 2009: email to support@plentyjackpots.com (no response)
26 Feb 2009: withdrawel was denied (without any notice), so I rerequested it
16 Mar 2009: Discussion with online-support: they told me that I have to send the faxback-form (although I already had)
14 May 2009: Discussion with online-support: I shall cancel and rerequest the withdrawel due to some software problems
13 Jun 2009: Discussion with online-support: Now suddenly the playthrough-requirements raised to 45x(deposit+bonus)
16 Jun 2009: Luckily after playing to reach the new requirement I still had USD 4,500.
15 Aug 2009: Discussion with online-support: Now the playthrough-requirements again raised to 90x(deposit+bonus)
04 Sep 2009: Again I was lucky and still had USD 3,000 so I again requested a withdrawel.
20 Sep 2009: request was denied. After checking with online-support they again asked me to send the faxback form.
08 Dec 2009: request was denied. After checking with online-support they again asked me to send the faxback form.

Up from this date I repeatedly discussed with online-chat and always heart the same lies about new payout systems, high amount of withdrawels and other stuff.

10 Jun 2010: I again had to rerequest the withdrawel due to a "new payout system"
19 Jun 2010: first contact with CDS
25 Aug 2010: They again wanted me to send the faxback-form
02 Sep 2010: They again wanted me to send the faxback-form

All in all I already had 84 discussions with online chat and of course have not seen any cent from those fraudsters.

My experiences with CDS:
This is more or less a fake. They only can do something when there are problems regarding playthru requirements or sth like that. If an operator simply don't pay they can't do anything.
Victor/CDS 23 Aug:
"We cannot but continue to press the casino for the release of your funds. Unfortunately, this is the extent of our mandate. We hope that the continued and persistant effort will come to fruition eventually."
"In response to your question about contacting RTG directly, this is not a possibility. CDS is the third party dispute resolution system and the only channel available for these matters. As we have stated before, we continue to press for a resolution of these withdrawals. The Operator did indicate they are working out a way to get you the funds which should be ready very soon."
They cannot do anything against fraudulent casino operators. They only can frindly ask them to pay out but nothing more.

My opinion about RTG:
As RTG offers only this CDS to report fraud it seems that they also don't care about criminal licensees.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:48 PM
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Re: Plentyjackpots is definately fraudulent. IMO all RTG-Casinos should be avoided

Sounds like a horrific experience. Where on earth did you find this casino? I never even heard of it!

Please don't play at casinos that spam you, you are just bound to run into trouble. There are a number of decent RTG casinos, and there are a bunch of bad ones.

It's the bad ones that send out spam....
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:05 PM
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Re: Plentyjackpots is definately fraudulent. IMO all RTG-Casinos should be avoided

Plentyjackpots is a rogue casino and I dont believe that there is anything that anyone can do to help you out with this problem. Mightyslots is another RTG casino that is on the rogue list. So best to stay away from that one too.

There are, as Dominique said, safe RTG casinos to play at. I have played at Inetbet for years and have won and cashed out there. So please dont judge all RTG casinos by the bad apples in the barrel.

If in doubt of where to play, visit the rogue casino section here or at Casinomeister who also lists rogue casinos.
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Old 12-30-2010, 07:33 AM
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A big sensation occured...

I finally got paid!

Anyway I still think that this guys are fraudsters.
I had 96 support-chat sessions, wrote about 30 e-mails to plentyjackpots, 22 comments to CDS, 4 e-mails to RTG, several e-mails to gambling authorities in Costa Rica and Malta, many posts in online casino forums and waited 717(!) days to receive a payment.
I don't know which communication line makes them finally pay but
for sure 99% of players play again until they lose all their money in this time or simple give it up.
So as long as casinos from curgam group are still online I will not play on any RTG casino and cannot recommend this to other potential players.
But I can definately recommend other victims to fight against them and to use all possible lines of communication to make them pay...

*cheers*

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Old 12-30-2010, 08:02 AM
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Re: Plentyjackpots is definately fraudulent. IMO all RTG-Casinos should be avoided

It is great to hear that you have finally gotten paid. But, dont judge all RTGs by this one or even by most of them.

Inetbet is an RTG powered casino and it is one of the most honest online. I have played there for years now and have won and not had a bit of problem in cashing out or in getting paid.

I am however, sorry to hear that you had to literally jump through hoops to get your money but am glad to hear, as I said, that you have finally gotten paid.
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Re: Plentyjackpots is definately fraudulent. IMO all RTG-Casinos should be avoided

Glad to hear that you finally managed to get the money you were owed. Sadfully that it took so long to get it done.

Before you play again, you might want to check here and get an opinon on places so that you can find somewhere that your not going to have serious issues like you already have.

Granted I am not much of a gambler, but I do know that everyone here is very helpful and will do what they can to make sure that your gaming experience is pleasureable.
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